Melanie Butler talks to Fraser Cargill about his career
and the new Pearson PTE Academic examinations
Q You have had an unusual career including a stint as
Australian honorary consul to North Sumatra.
How did you become an honorary consul and how did you change to a career in
testing?
A Oh, long story... I was working for the commercial wing of an Australian
university and had set up a language and cultural centre in Medan,
North Sumatra for them on an initial two-year
contract – my partner and I enjoyed it so we stayed. We ended up bringing all
things Australian in the region under one roof so that we could present a
one-stop shop for Australia
in the way of language training, crosscultural exchange programmes, trade and
education. When the Australian government decided to set up honorary consulates
around Indonesia
we were a fairly nice fit for them. I was always involved in testing, having
trained as an Ielts examiner in 1993 and then set up an Ielts test centre in Medan from 1995.
Q How did you get involved in international education
and what did the experience teach you?
A When I first moved to Australia
in 1989 I went to work in one of the large language centres operating there. It
was at the time of the Chinese boom periodin Australia and we literally had
dozens of classes filled almost entirely by Chinese students. The majority of
them had borrowed large sums of money in order to gain an overseas education
which they felt would boost their career opportunities at home. To then see
them trying to combine English language study with work to pay back these
loans demonstrated to me the respect for education in some countries that I
felt perhaps we took for granted to some extent certainly in the UK.
The school was not one of the best around and I felt that the students were
often treated pretty badly. This, and subsequent experiences, has taught me
that it is can be too easy in an increasingly commercial field to treat
everyone as commodities – this should never be the case. I try to remember that
education should be an enjoyable journey – not just a means to an end – and
that we should try and make that journey more enjoyable for students in all that
we do.
Q Most of your career seems to have been in Asia and the Pacific. Obviously this represents a huge
market for examinations – if indeed it is a single market...
A You are right – it isn’t a single market at all and each country has its
own unique culture, language and characteristics. However, I think that there
is a very different attitude to language learning in the region – and this is
probably applicable to many non-English- speaking cultures – whereby language
learning for many is a necessity for future study, job opportunities, accessing
a wider range of materials on the Internet, etc. therefore the need or desire
to measure your progress in learning a foreign or second language is quite
different and has much wider appeal. There are also many governments with very
specific objectives for the study of English beginning at a young age and the
benchmarking of English language standards against those countries which are
either bilingual or multilingual. If you couple this with the growth in technology
in the region then a test like PTE Academic, which combines cutting-edge
technology, reliability of scores with stimulating and authentic item types,
then you tick many of the boxes.
Q Australia seems to be
playing a key role in the academic exams market. What do you think makes Australia
so strong in international education?
AAustralia has been
involved in international education since the days of the Colombo Plan, which
saw a group of about 5,500 scholarship students study in Australia between 1951 and 1964. Of
course we have moved on a fair bit since then with almost 500,000 students
studying in Australian educational institutions today. The cultural ties, our
proximity to the rest of Asia and the quality of an English language education
combined with some very smart pioneers of the international education industry
here have all helped Australia
get to where it is today. The growth of this industry – now ranking as Australia’s
third largest export industry supporting almost 125,000 jobs, of course led to
the need to assess English language skills to ensure that international
students were ready to enter courses delivered in English. The use of an
English language test by the Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC)
for certain visa categories in Australia
since 2001 has obviously fuelled the growth of tests here in Australia. The
need for a more reliable measure of English language proficiency with better
accessibility has been a part of the development of PTE Academic, but that has
been a reflection of the global needs.
Q Your current title is vice president, what are the
most difficult and rewarding aspects of the job?
AThe main aspects of my role are fairly varied; overseeing recognition
and sales for the new test in the region, working with colleagues from
different parts of Pearson in the region on educational solutions for a wide
range of partners, developing relationships with education and government
bodies and being part of the global management team at PLT.
The most rewarding aspects of the job are working with a great set of
colleagues on a daily basis and knowing that Pearson develops some fantastic
educational solutions – whether it is in English language tests such as PTE
Academic or our online learning resources to support students in almost any
subject. The most challenging aspect has to be the time zone challenge. Our
management team covers the globe and arranging meetings to suit everyone is
always interesting. I often work late at night to attend meetings which is
still preferable to my colleagues in the US who then have to get up at what
seem like unearthly hours to me to be in the same meeting.
Q When I talk to people in English language teaching
about PTE Academic, they say why do we need another academic English exam? What
are the three key factors which make this exam different?
AThat’s easy. First reliability – the use of our
automated scoring system ensures both candidates and receiving institutions
know that they can trust the scores. Second security – exam security has always
been an issue in high-stake exams and the use of integrated biometrics at the
test centre ensures that the person who took the test is the person in the
photo on the score report, meaning that there is no doubt over the identity of
the person who took the test. Flexibility – the ability for candidates to take
tests on a date and time that is suitable to them rather than waiting for
availability has to be a plus.
Q The new PTE Academic is just set to launch. What
for you personally has been the most memorable thing about the experience of
developing the new test?
ALooking at how up to twenty different parts of Pearson have worked
together to make this a reality. Also watching John de Jong’s (vice president
test development at PLT)
concept for PTE Academic grow into what we are about to launch has been great.